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Alex Leong's avatar

Very well said. You have articulated in much more clarity and accuracy than I could, some vague ideas that have been swimming just under the surface of my consciousness for some time. There seems to be a note of petulance (and maybe some degree of avtism) in the way RW people advocate for things like building communities/lifting weights/buying farmland.

You ask them why do it and they'll give you a laundry list of reasons why it's good, which are usually instrumental, but rare is the man who just shrugs, gets back to doing the damn thing, and letting its innate goodness speak for itself.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that my takeaway from this is we should really be more like monke.

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Bacchus Dedatos Dionysovich's avatar

>the idea that you are the messiah, that you are christ.

This seems to me the problem.

Radicalism is a drive, yes. But there is a drive and there are rails on which it drives. Lenin was a radical using Marxism (Liberalism) for lack of anything better. Prophets are radicals too.

Radicals are warriors driven by eschatology stemming from desire for Justice (not Good (Tradition) and not Happiness (Liberalism)) as a result of a dissatisfaction with everything there is and any alternative to it. Being for them is fundamentaly wrong hence comes desire to bring the end of time.

Idea cited above is a Traditional teaching of identity, as above so below.

Traditionalism is 1. Misplaced transcendent pursued as a goal, 2. Identification of messiah and God.

-How it is "solved"?

-Revelation.

Whats the difference between Tradition and Revelation?

By revelation people are lead by prophets but only with God's intervention can new earth be achieved (I understood it as happening after a critical mass reached). Religion of revelation draws a clear line between Adam and his descendants (prophets) and God, which cannot be thought as a transposition from "this" to "that", because "that" is already linked with "this" hence is a false transcendent.

To get back to cited quote - people are taking the role not suited for them, hence lifting weights to get it under control is the best solution, maybe we need a social equivalent..

I understand that you may disagree about Christ and all. But i am all for lifting weights and farming for its own sake!

Thanks for your writing.

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