Though there are women out there who will settle for nothing less than a Manson. It's hard to "fix" such a person, probably best to not get involved, or move on if you realize you're with one.
Good read, I hadn't considered the proliferation of Manson/Bundy/Dahmer/Gacy by media as a form of mind control, but that makes sense, and it is in much the same way that porn is, though in some ways it's more useful to them because it's less taboo than porn, so they can broadcast it more broadly.
I've yet to meet a human who can keep lovemaking in the realm of love and not fucking. And I've yet to meet a person that I feel like I love and want to have sex with at the same time, and that includes my wife. I have wondered if the idea that sex and love are compatible is a false one. Well, outside of providing your partner with a service.
Once I thought I loved a girl, but after she rejected me, I quickly fell out of love. Later, I realized I was a horny teenager. Now, I think I might be in love again, but than again, I might be a horny 20 something.
Or maybe lust is just when you reduce a woman to nothing but their ability to please you sexually, and I am actually in love, but I'm also horny. Maybe she's just a beautiful woman, and I'm confusing beauty with love. It's an easy mistake, confusing these three things, love, female beauty and lust.
The story of how I met my wife is cute. It could be in a movie or a TV show. The story of how we got together, finally, is... much less cute. A little ugly. Somehow we built a relationship on that, and twenty years and three kids later we're still enjoying our life together.
Occasionally I read things (like your article from, what, a few weeks ago?) about how hard/impossible it is to find love these days and feel a little guilty. I'm really not that special a person. I'm a clerk working in the courthouse basement. What have I done to deserve a woman like my wife in my life? I'm not particularly smart or observant (although I do think I'm imaginative and my stories are all pretty good, so maybe that appealed to her on some level) or successful or good-looking. I'm there for her, though, and she's been there for me. It's wholesome and nice, but there have been ugly moments, as well. We're mere humans and that just can't be helped. Whatever. If you are with someone you love and respect, and she loves and respects you in return (love being more important to the woman and respect to the man), those ugly moments fade into bland memories that don't even get called up when we're in the midst of a new argument, and even the difference between "fucking" and "making love" is blurred nearly into nonexistence. Honestly I can't even imagine being disgusted by my wife. I thank God for guiding us together and I hope that you and everyone else who is looking will find love and happiness as well.
Even Manson wasn’t born a psychopath, but he definitely became one not long after. His life really, really, sucked. To the level where you would want to use every form of black magic you could to make women not leave you.
And yet none of us would know he exists if not for the amount of attention he continues to get.
You can tell a lot about a system by who it chooses to idolize and fixate on.
Another compelling post - your writing here reads to me like a clearer version of The Last Psychiatrist, which I enjoyed. I would be interested in reading a novel of yours if you ever lean into fiction or autofiction.
One thing that I think is an interesting confluence between MK-Ultra and modern dating is PUA theory/applied evolutionary psychology because they're both based on this very intentional systematization of human relations. Of course, while it's always been argued that PUA tactics constitute a form of psychological manipulation, I think the more interesting question emerges when you remove the overtly manipulative "dark triad" elements of PUA psychology tactics (e.g. the much-derided "negging") and examine only the generic, slightly-modified "human sales funnel" that remains.
Consider the broad implications of generic approaches to "learned charm" or "learned charisma." Is *that* process - by virtue of its systematization & mechanization - also autonomy eroding against the person to whom it is applied? If so, wouldn't that imply that *any* "sales" process is autonomy eroding?
Though there are women out there who will settle for nothing less than a Manson. It's hard to "fix" such a person, probably best to not get involved, or move on if you realize you're with one.
Good read, I hadn't considered the proliferation of Manson/Bundy/Dahmer/Gacy by media as a form of mind control, but that makes sense, and it is in much the same way that porn is, though in some ways it's more useful to them because it's less taboo than porn, so they can broadcast it more broadly.
I've yet to meet a human who can keep lovemaking in the realm of love and not fucking. And I've yet to meet a person that I feel like I love and want to have sex with at the same time, and that includes my wife. I have wondered if the idea that sex and love are compatible is a false one. Well, outside of providing your partner with a service.
Once I thought I loved a girl, but after she rejected me, I quickly fell out of love. Later, I realized I was a horny teenager. Now, I think I might be in love again, but than again, I might be a horny 20 something.
Or maybe lust is just when you reduce a woman to nothing but their ability to please you sexually, and I am actually in love, but I'm also horny. Maybe she's just a beautiful woman, and I'm confusing beauty with love. It's an easy mistake, confusing these three things, love, female beauty and lust.
The story of how I met my wife is cute. It could be in a movie or a TV show. The story of how we got together, finally, is... much less cute. A little ugly. Somehow we built a relationship on that, and twenty years and three kids later we're still enjoying our life together.
Occasionally I read things (like your article from, what, a few weeks ago?) about how hard/impossible it is to find love these days and feel a little guilty. I'm really not that special a person. I'm a clerk working in the courthouse basement. What have I done to deserve a woman like my wife in my life? I'm not particularly smart or observant (although I do think I'm imaginative and my stories are all pretty good, so maybe that appealed to her on some level) or successful or good-looking. I'm there for her, though, and she's been there for me. It's wholesome and nice, but there have been ugly moments, as well. We're mere humans and that just can't be helped. Whatever. If you are with someone you love and respect, and she loves and respects you in return (love being more important to the woman and respect to the man), those ugly moments fade into bland memories that don't even get called up when we're in the midst of a new argument, and even the difference between "fucking" and "making love" is blurred nearly into nonexistence. Honestly I can't even imagine being disgusted by my wife. I thank God for guiding us together and I hope that you and everyone else who is looking will find love and happiness as well.
Even Manson wasn’t born a psychopath, but he definitely became one not long after. His life really, really, sucked. To the level where you would want to use every form of black magic you could to make women not leave you.
And yet none of us would know he exists if not for the amount of attention he continues to get.
You can tell a lot about a system by who it chooses to idolize and fixate on.
it’s serving the other <3
Another compelling post - your writing here reads to me like a clearer version of The Last Psychiatrist, which I enjoyed. I would be interested in reading a novel of yours if you ever lean into fiction or autofiction.
One thing that I think is an interesting confluence between MK-Ultra and modern dating is PUA theory/applied evolutionary psychology because they're both based on this very intentional systematization of human relations. Of course, while it's always been argued that PUA tactics constitute a form of psychological manipulation, I think the more interesting question emerges when you remove the overtly manipulative "dark triad" elements of PUA psychology tactics (e.g. the much-derided "negging") and examine only the generic, slightly-modified "human sales funnel" that remains.
Consider the broad implications of generic approaches to "learned charm" or "learned charisma." Is *that* process - by virtue of its systematization & mechanization - also autonomy eroding against the person to whom it is applied? If so, wouldn't that imply that *any* "sales" process is autonomy eroding?
Anyways - love what you're doing here. Possibly, you might like my novel about a broadly similar topic: https://www.amazon.com/INCEL-Novel-ARX-Han/dp/B0C9SNQK9C/